tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post4851558054995341388..comments2024-03-05T04:49:06.003+00:00Comments on Thoughts of a confused mind: Gotta be 18!!Samhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-34124706082167718692008-03-07T09:54:00.000+00:002008-03-07T09:54:00.000+00:00@mrittika:thnx for dropping by!!!and i really appr...@mrittika:<BR/>thnx for dropping by!!!<BR/>and i really appreciate your observation .... on all counts!! :)Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-33445926505022640972008-03-05T07:56:00.000+00:002008-03-05T07:56:00.000+00:00hey...nice blog!i like ur style of writing n inter...hey...nice blog!i like ur style of writing n interesting topic u got here!i so agree with u dat a girls marraigeable age shud b raised to 21 too!or maybe more than that!but then whre wud the guys get girls younger than them to be married to..:P<BR/><BR/>n u know what,inspite of getting good sex education,youngsters still jump at the word "sex" n goin out for several days,they go arnd carrying condoms in their pockets not even knowing that they arent 100% effective!!!<BR/><BR/>n what about this law that the gov is trying to undertake?weird!its as if the gov is going thru puberty!!<BR/><BR/>n thnx for the comment u left at my blog.seems like we all love to write!!..:DShorbonaashihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11093263104638231966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-83623122710691063402008-02-25T10:40:00.000+00:002008-02-25T10:40:00.000+00:00@wielder of rotten tomatoes:Firstly, I'm afraid I ...@wielder of rotten tomatoes:<BR/><BR/>Firstly, I'm afraid I haven't seen any name calling here. None yet has happened on my blog!!! Cite the point where there has been a name calling and sue me, if you find that!!! Name calling!!! Do you even know what it is???<BR/><BR/>You are definitely free to express your opinion. Please do so. But I’m afraid not in the gruff manner in which you’ve done. You obviously are ignorant of the art of civility. My sympathies!!!<BR/><BR/>Secondly, through all your comments I've seen you reiterating the point that 16 yr olds know what they are doing, Am I right?? In that case, I ask you how come the case of teenage pregnancy is on the rise??? Rural or urban!! They know what they are doing biologically, but do they understand the impact of it all???<BR/><BR/>You say people are against it for the wrong reasons. CAN YOU DEFEND THAT CLAIM?? I’ll bet you can’t!!!<BR/><BR/>As for defending my claim, I can defend it better than you do!! Coz, simply I tend to look a little beyond what you are talking about. I happen to know the same facts; I’ve also seen how things go bad after that.<BR/><BR/>The point never has been whether they are active or not, point is whether legalising it would raise problems or not!!!! Or maybe aggravate existing ones. And in case you are unaware of them. Hold your horses; you might want to find out about them before talking!!! (or rather writing!!)<BR/><BR/>And I'm afraid, you FAIL to convince anyone!!! Being active and being responsible are two different things.. Unfortunately, it seems you've mixed them up!!!!<BR/><BR/>Oh btw, please show me who has a microcosmic view (in a destructive manner please, constructive might seem to a little out of your reach!!).<BR/><BR/>And thanks a lot for your rotten tomato, it’s my first. <BR/><BR/>Some FACTS and research content for you:<BR/>Lower age of consent and marriage can give some very astounding results:<BR/><A ” HTTP://WWW.NATIONMASTER.COM/GRAPH/PEO_TEE_BIR_RAT-PEOPLE-TEENAGE-BIRTH-RATE HREF="”" REL="nofollow"> http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/peo_tee_bir_rat-people-teenage-birth-rate </A> <BR/>Would like India to be featured on that list too???<BR/><BR/>Would you curb the problems associated with teenage pregnancy by lowering the age bar???<BR/>Read this: <A ” HTTP://WWW.DANCEWITHSHADOWS.COM/SOCIETY/TEENAGE-PREGNANCY-INDIA.ASP HREF="”" REL="nofollow"> Teenage pregnancy in India </A><BR/><A HTTP://MEDIND.NIC.IN/IBL/T03/I1/IBLT03I1P24O.PDF” HREF="”" REL="nofollow"> Pregnancy in Adolescents</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>This one is from your fav source I guess: <A HTTP://EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG/WIKI/TEENAGE_PREGNANCY” HREF="”" REL="nofollow">Teenage Pregnancy</A><BR/><BR/>Please go through them. The educated and aware lot going through an active sexual life doesn’t necessarily mean that the general population is at the same level. That’s the lot you and I we’ve always been exposed to. It needn’t be the global truth.<BR/><BR/>The solution to the problem of teen pregnancy is manifold and age is just one of them!! There are others too. But then, I’m sure you’ll again disagree.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And congratulations, you are first one in blogsville who has made me loose my cool!! You've got the ability mate!!!<BR/><BR/>Btw, try talking to people who are a bit older than you are, about this, adn please do tell us their opinion. I'd love to hear it!!<BR/><BR/>Cheerio.. c ya arnd!!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-62517530984715146682008-02-24T03:26:00.000+00:002008-02-24T03:26:00.000+00:00Microcosmic, HA. That is a new one, and I thank yo...Microcosmic, HA. That is a new one, and I thank you for a refreshing breath of comedy. Name calling aside, you haven't stated one good reason as to why the age of consent SHOULD NOT be lowered. Everything you have said, is OPINION, and I assume you agree we both are entitled to one. If you opinion was based on facts and statistics, you might have been able to persuade me to align with your opinion. <BR/><BR/>Bottomline, before you name call someone, make sure you can defend your claim. Your opinion of the immaturity of 18 year olds (for marriage) and the 16 year age of consent, is just your opinion, and PROBABLY draws from your experiences from those around you, like mine have been drawn from the people around me.<BR/><BR/>And if you think people in smaller towns and villages are not sexually active by 16, oh boy, do I have news for you. Perhaps you need to read the stats about teenage pregnancies. <BR/><BR/>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Age_of_Consent.png<BR/><BR/>Please read up on your facts before you make a blog post and more importantly, before you name call people. If I were in the mood, I would go about quite destructively showing which one of us has a microcosmic view.<BR/><BR/>Congratulations, this is officially my first rotten tomato in the blogosphere.Wielder of Rotten Tomatoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616832948762493929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-77670985399901943812008-02-22T11:46:00.000+00:002008-02-22T11:46:00.000+00:00@divya: quite right divya!!@thas: exactly.. dats a...@divya: quite right divya!!<BR/><BR/>@thas: exactly.. dats a pt of concern!!<BR/><BR/>@garima: u tread on a different path.. the implementation!! but a good point nevertheless!!<BR/><BR/>@raaji: u r so very right!!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-19708045790876147542008-02-22T10:03:00.000+00:002008-02-22T10:03:00.000+00:00@everyone: sorry for being for was too tied up wit...@everyone: sorry for being for was too tied up with things!!!<BR/><BR/>@clouds: ok.. i will<BR/><BR/>@dreamcatcher: i agree with you largely eher, except for teh last part!!! you have your reasons for that i'm sure, but not all need be like that!!! and how do you define/judge a man being ready for marriage??<BR/><BR/>@cuckoo: i fail to understand your point here!!!<BR/><BR/>@weilder: I'm afraid, but I feel you have a microcosmic view of the entire population in question!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-66016261605252383472008-02-18T20:27:00.000+00:002008-02-18T20:27:00.000+00:00we struggle with the same issue here as well. Its ...we struggle with the same issue here as well. Its this big question of where to draw the line? There are always pros and cons associated with the limits society puts on us but then again you have to draw the line somewhere. <BR/>ahh... dilemma's of life. :-)WritingsForLifehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15222395399977749183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-60310388501865566042008-02-17T17:32:00.000+00:002008-02-17T17:32:00.000+00:00hey good post but i have a lil different take on t...hey good post but i have a lil different take on this. <BR/>according to me this recommendation is not for people like us who understand the implications of marriage already..whether we r 16, 18 or 21. we can talk abt financial independence for the girls, maturity of boys but ppl back in villages don't have any idea about all this. marriages are taking place there with or without this law. if at all this law can do anything is maybe encourage ppl getting married at 16 to wait till they r 18! enforcement of all these laws is a larger issue.Garimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06031354848999101234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-58071181461182458072008-02-13T20:27:00.000+00:002008-02-13T20:27:00.000+00:00this is one ridiculous law...18 is obviously an ag...this is one ridiculous law...18 is obviously an age of immaturity and having the urge to do many things without even thinking and aware of the aftereffects..so if they get married at 18, whts gonna happen? nd also thre wuld be some girls/boys being in love and taking advantage of ths law nd getting maried as soon as they hit 18,(no need to wait till 21) while n college.Thashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02870032658283444582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-67093309707739948342008-02-13T19:50:00.000+00:002008-02-13T19:50:00.000+00:00Sam the laws are sure not for you and me :D not fo...Sam the laws are sure not for you and me :D not for those who understand....Lukkydivshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15531559113197498349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-51545324066661652672008-02-13T00:23:00.000+00:002008-02-13T00:23:00.000+00:00As far as I am concerned, most people are well awa...As far as I am concerned, most people are well aware of sex by the age of 16. That is well into the 11th grade, and though it has been a while since I was in school, I do recall many that were sexually active. So what is the huge hue and cry!<BR/><BR/>I agree with the reduction in that age. Most 16 year olds know what they are doing! Most 16 year olds are even capable of manipulation, though it is a minor issue.<BR/><BR/>I find nothing wrong in these laws and I am surprised so many are against it, though I must add, for all the wrong reasons.Wielder of Rotten Tomatoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616832948762493929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-64671811381048063082008-02-12T19:56:00.000+00:002008-02-12T19:56:00.000+00:00Well, lots has already been discussed here. I thin...Well, lots has already been discussed here. <BR/>I think the main point of contention which we are missing here is true rural India. Most of us talked about the urban India where we all know that 18 is not a correct age for marriage.<BR/>But go to rural India where child marriages are still the norms and I think min. age for girls (18 yrs) has been decided in keeping that in mind.<BR/>Mind you, that's the min. age, no one is forcing us to get married at that age and educated that we are, we won't do it also. But at least it'll compel/scare the parents of little girls below 18 down there in villages.<BR/>For 2nd pt though, I am at a loss for 16 yrs as min. age for consensual sex. I think it is to legalize the rapes of minors and to reduce the reported cases of rape, nothing else.<BR/><BR/>Good post, Sam!Cuckoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09593822080382578122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-88059209451929172332008-02-12T17:02:00.000+00:002008-02-12T17:02:00.000+00:00if you can vote and decide the fate of the nation,...if you can vote and decide the fate of the nation, if you can drive and decide whether to put yours and other travellers life in jeopardy, if you can drink and be merry, why not marry? Being an adult is about responsibility and if you can be responsible for major decisions in life why not marriage? I don't support child marriage but they survive for various reasons longer than the 'seemingly adult' marriages. And coming to men, they are never really ready for a marriage, cause you need to grow up for that. :)DreamCatcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00845992295404383129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-9928016538357474892008-02-12T16:17:00.000+00:002008-02-12T16:17:00.000+00:00Well, that's what they are being rather stupid. An...Well, that's what they are being rather stupid. <BR/><BR/>And check my blog for the saree wallah post. :)...https://www.blogger.com/profile/15346467080714817466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-27243357684359994932008-02-12T12:43:00.000+00:002008-02-12T12:43:00.000+00:00@mez: that would hardly help!! i've heard guys cla...@mez: that would hardly help!! i've heard guys claimin that they'll never pay for sex... how do you control in that case???<BR/>And most rape cases happen because of sudden/suppressed lust for a particular female. legalising prostitution wouldn't really help in that scenario would it??<BR/>I can give you situations if you ask!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-42066637785624247962008-02-12T12:40:00.000+00:002008-02-12T12:40:00.000+00:00@clouds: based on the reasons you have pointed out...@clouds: based on the reasons you have pointed out, I would ask only one question:<BR/><BR/>Marrying off fellas at a younger age is going to solve the socio-economic problems?? Are they trying to telling us with couples going into parenthood by say 20 yrs of age economic problems would get solved??<BR/><BR/>The reasoning is so absurd!! Absolutely off the track!!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-2232782760471459272008-02-12T12:08:00.000+00:002008-02-12T12:08:00.000+00:00So much has already been talked about already.16 o...So much has already been talked about already.16 or 18 or 20 or whatever...my bigger concern is rape. I guess prostitution shud be legalised,atleast there wont be so many rapes.Mezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13916802435996239841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-78631624182516017272008-02-12T10:38:00.000+00:002008-02-12T10:38:00.000+00:00Oopsie - the (least) marriage age for boys is bei...Oopsie - <I> the (least) marriage age for boys is being reduced from 21 to 18 for two reasons </I>...https://www.blogger.com/profile/15346467080714817466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-14316928342431215692008-02-12T10:36:00.000+00:002008-02-12T10:36:00.000+00:00Firstly, this is a superb post. I am most probably...Firstly, this is a superb post. I am most probably taking up law after 12th so it's exciting to read and comment to something like this. Secondly,kudos to you for writing about this and discussing about it.<BR/><BR/>Last Sunday,there was a rather BIG argument(I'm not even calling it a DISCUSSION) on 'We,The People' on NDTV 24X7. According to the Law Commission,the (least) marriage age for boys is being reduced from 21 to 28 for two reasons :<BR/>1. For equality of sexes (Equality of Status And Opportunity) as the Preamble suggests.<BR/>2. Because in the rural areas villagers are marrying off their kids before the age of 18 owing to socio-economic problems.<BR/><BR/>However, I beg to differ from the Law Commission like you and many others. I mean the clause of equality of sexes could have been taken care of by increasing the marriage age of women to 21yrs. Moreover,if they are bothered about the socio-economic problems they should take proper measure to educate these people. This kind of a law will only result in regression,nothing better.<BR/><BR/>At eighteen,we complete our basic education. It is rather absurd to start such enforce such a law. <BR/><BR/>And about the consensual sex thingy,first sex at 16 - consensual or not - amounted to rape and now this??...https://www.blogger.com/profile/15346467080714817466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-11778292692873017522008-02-12T09:20:00.000+00:002008-02-12T09:20:00.000+00:00@phoenix: lolzzz... that's a different story!!! ev...@phoenix: lolzzz... that's a different story!!! even girls to tend to become a baby.... pamper them nice and proper they become nothing but lil babies... enjoying every bit of affection... pouting the lips when things not going their way... can't describe that to you exactly.. why don't you ask your baby? he'll tell wot kind of a baby you are!! :)Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-35566141951407796302008-02-11T14:53:00.000+00:002008-02-11T14:53:00.000+00:0018?no way!im dealing with a 23 yr old baby..my bf ...18?no way!im dealing with a 23 yr old baby..my bf is an engg but biggest baby of my life i cant imagine what wud happen if marriageable age is lowered to 18!!shesssh<BR/><BR/>shudder shudderPhoenixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04246515616902327148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-69103184183462851392008-02-11T07:33:00.000+00:002008-02-11T07:33:00.000+00:00ad-libber and weilder:You guys have put forth an e...ad-libber and weilder:<BR/><BR/>You guys have put forth an excellent point!!<BR/><BR/>While it does deal with statutory rape, one cannot rule out the license that we keep granting to youngsters... lets face it.. what we really need is a better sex education... something which is non-existent...<BR/><BR/>that way we can achieve a lot...<BR/>avoid teens from having irresponsible sexual lives, help them understand their bodies better, prevent teenage pregnancies, prevent "consentual rape".<BR/><BR/>What do you say on that?Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-29276535488617823162008-02-11T07:18:00.000+00:002008-02-11T07:18:00.000+00:00@mel: point taken.. but then isn't it upto us to m...@mel: point taken.. but then isn't it upto us to make sure that whatever it is that they do, they do so with complete knowledge about it?? we can ensure that!!<BR/>As far as live-ins go.. in India it is still a concept not much in vogue!!<BR/><BR/>@raghu: hmmm.. care to elucidate that?<BR/><BR/>@keshi: not a joke.. but reality!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-7245779967793785842008-02-11T07:14:00.000+00:002008-02-11T07:14:00.000+00:00Pri, vands, bubbles: thnx a lot for ur opinions!!@...Pri, vands, bubbles: thnx a lot for ur opinions!!<BR/><BR/>@bubbles: wen r u mailing me dat info?<BR/><BR/>@ashu: they r not joking.... btw, wud luv to hear ur point of view!!Samhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06394200137631383145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37282400.post-22854693215363483822008-02-11T05:47:00.000+00:002008-02-11T05:47:00.000+00:00I think you are taking the "age for consentual sex...I think you are taking the "age for consentual sex" too literally. The law, or at least my understanding of it, deals with Statutory Rape. It is the age beyond which a person can be said to be an adult (sexually) and hence the partner (mature) is not liable!<BR/><BR/>I don't think anyone can stop (legally) two 14 year olds from having sex. The law prevents a 40 year old from taking advantage of the naivety of a 14 year old. It means nothing as far as consentual sex for both underage parties goes.<BR/><BR/>I think most of the commentators are blissfully unaware of what I have just said and hence all the proclamations of an unintelligent government!<BR/><BR/>To add my own opinion in the mix, I believe freedom breeds maturity. True, certain restrictions are needed, but they should be in place just as long as they are needed and no more.Wielder of Rotten Tomatoeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616832948762493929noreply@blogger.com